[F3A-Discussion] 2023 Sequences

[Atwood, Mark]

My thoughts are both as a competitor, but also as a TM from the WC’s of the past three cycles.

#1 complaint - Ambiguous maneuvers that emphasize regional style over technical accuracy.    Top of that list is the Barrel Roll.   Virtually impossible to judge without a 3-view image and slow motion.  Then end result is that there’s either a whole bunch of 8’s, or worse, you score relative to the rest of your flight.  If you fly 8s everywhere else, you get an 8 on your BR, if you fly 7’s you’ll get a 7.   Still worse is that the benchmark becomes however the best guy at the line does it.  Be that Andrew or Christophe or even me.  If there’s a lot of variations on how it can be done correctly, invariably their will be poor and inconsistent judging.

I’d also argue that the 6-point roll, while technically observable, was very difficult to judge (or fly) accurately as visually discerning a 60deg wing angle at 150 meters is also virtually impossible.

I’m with Earl that I’m not a big fan of the 3D position adjusting maneuvers as they somewhat punish you for holding your line and force an in/out correction UNLESS they follow a drift maneuver like a spin.


P & F have been reasonably well timed, although F17 was a bit long.  The unknowns though often have a series of very large, very long center maneuvers and with the addition of all the KE turn arounds, create schedules that have pilots dangerously taking off downwind and racing into the box in order to maximize their time.  We’ve done better with the timing rules to avoid running airplanes out to the flight line, but it seems like racing to finish in 8min wasn’t really the intention of the rule.

Also agree with Earl that a nice mix of Snaps, Integration and KE makes for a nice pattern. And it can lean heavy in one direction or another (more snaps, more KE) year to year, but should avoid being toooo heavy.  F11 with 11 snaps was a bit much.


PERSONALLY, I’d like to see P be a little (emphasis on LITTLE) more challenging to better establish position in the prelims.  F be slightly LESS challenging so it’s not such a daunting barrier to entry into FAI.  And leave the Unknowns as the final true separator of men from boys.

-M

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On Jan 31, 2018, at 2:38 PM, Derek Koopowitz via F3A-Discussion <f3a-discussion at lists.f3a.us<mailto:f3a-discussion at lists.f3a.us>> wrote:

I’d be interested in your opinions on how to move forward with new sequences for F3A.  These are the questions I have:


  1.  Do we want to design sequences that can be flown at 150m and avoid a lot of maneuvers that have rolling options in the downlines which would give an advantage to slower models?  In other words keep the sequence close and smallish?
  2.  More or less snaps?
  3.  More or less KE maneuvers?
  4.  More or less integrated rolling maneuvers?
  5.  Use more 3D maneuvers (maneuvers that move in and out)?
  6.  Shorter F and Unknown sequences (down to 15 maneuvers) but making them more difficult?  Take a look at the Unlimited IMAC sequence for instance – only 10 maneuvers but very challenging.


Any other options?

Best,
-Derek

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